commissioners, that was here, there and everywhere. you kind of think when you have a presentation that's like that, it does, i don't know who is does a favor to. for sure it doesn't do a favor to constituents who are astute. there may be people who think we're badgering, but we have this diatribe that goes nowhere. we bring guests okay, visitors come and there's grid lock. complete with pictures. and here we have four agencies, one of the many people involved is the board of supervisors. you all should have a focus group. you should demand from the agencies some short term and long-term goals.